Tradition Research

catlady: "Thank you both for a fascinating discussion. I am in favor of meritocracy but I think we have to allow many children, especially boys, time to mature before we give them tests to determine their path in life. Many boys are academically poor in their childhoods but get better when they become teenagers."

siren: "Maybe if more schools used the Socratic method (only ones I believe using it currently are Law schools in the US), then it would be better for the growth of our society in general. Overuse of standardised tests does not fundamentally "improve" people, it can only show who is struggling. If there is no methodology to help those struggling institutionally (ie, its a great financial burden for governments to do so), then why do we bother with having so many tests? Especially as Jordan has famously explained that creativity correlates to lower scores fundamentally and students with more disagreeableness (boys), also in my belief, low politeness (lack of adherence to the desire to please authority figures such as teachers) makes stark differences in how much the tests can actually provide fundamentally useful results.